15 October 2009

OK Enough Of This Insanity Already

They want you to believe we have lost something when we have actually gained something. This is the new Zionist hasbara over the Goldstone Report.

This article being carried by the Associated Press is an utter disgrace. The overall tone is that it is a “shame” that the Goldstone report will now “have to go forward” because it will erode any chance for peace. They want you to believe something has now been “lost” Well in my experience you must first actually "have" something in order to then loose it. And we can categorically state that we had "nothing" from Israel, so we cannot lose something we never actually had. But this is what they want you to believe now.

Of course this is because of the war criminals themselves; if they are forced to face up to their crimes then they will take their toys and go home. “No Peace Talks for You Palestine and Obama!!” If the Palestinians want to “talk” to them or if America wants to “talk” to them about Peace, then the law will have to be broken for Israel, thus excluding them from the law. And the world should allow this for more “talk?” Because that is all you get from Israel, is talk. The only action one sees from Israel is the continued land grabbing and expulsion of Palestinians from the West Bank and Jerusalem. Here’s the AP hasbara report below with comments to point out the hasbara and audacity long the way:
A U.N. war crimes report against Israel and Hamas meant to promote justice and accountability has instead created new obstacles for the Obama administration's Mideast peace push and deepened an internal rift among Palestinians.
Sorry but what “Peace Push” from Obama would he be talking about here? The one where Obama asks Israel to behave, and then Israel tells Obama they won’t budge on Settlements or Jerusalem? And then Obama says “Ok” And this was WELL before the Goldstone report being back on the table! So let’s not distort the facts here.
Israel says that if the case against it gains steam, the Jewish state will not be able to make the wide-ranging concessions necessary for any peace deal.
Ooooh the new "buzz" word. "Wide-Ranging Concessions" Well then, let’s talk about this mystical “carrot” above being dangled in front of the Obama/Abbas donkey. This report sounds like little Israel was planning on giving “wide-ranging concessions” that now won’t take place. Don’t buy into this hasbara, here’s the question: What has been Israel’s excuse for not making those so called “wide ranging concessions” before this report was even written by Goldstone and his team? Given that the UN fact finding mission of Goldstone was called for on January 12, 2009 and not even completed until just weeks ago. And this brings me to Israel’s above excuse again. If Israel wanted to make some deal with Abbas to circumvent the report with the PA’s approval, then where was the so called “prize” for doing so? Would you not think that if Israel had “planned” on making these “Wide-ranging concessions” as reported in this article, that they’d have given the bribe to Abbas ages ago so that Abbas could then claim some manufactured victory to bolster his position? But we did not see any “wide-ranging concessions” at any time, not in January, not in February or March, April, May, June, July August, September or October. But what we HAVE seen is a blatant refusal by Israel to give ANY concessions at all, to Abbas OR Obama on anything what so ever. There were never going to be any “wide-ranging concessions” it’s another carrot in front of the Obama/Abbas donkey that the donkey can never get hold of! Next:
Hamas, the militant group that violently seized control of the Gaza Strip more than two years ago,
Notice the careful wording there? Hamas the “militant group that violently seized control of the Gaza strip” Let’s re-write this the correct way shall we? “The Hamas party that won the majority election in Gaza AND the West Bank and was then ousted by FATAH and not allowed to form a unity coalition for government by FATAH, therefore they took Gaza and FATAH took the West Bank.” But let’s not let those pesky facts get in the way of a good “hasbara” article!
(Hamas) Is reaping benefits from the report's fallout, while shrugging off the serious allegations the document makes against its own fighters.
Oh this is priceless here. So, Hamas is shrugging off the serious allegations against them? Funny that’s not what I’ve been reading. Instead I’ve read where Hamas is formulating its answers to the report (which Israel can do if it chooses to participate like Hamas is doing) and also Hamas has publicly stated its support for the report, even though there are things against them within the report. Can Israel say the same? Nope! Instead what we really see is Hamas cooperating and Brave Israel trying to run away.
Mahmoud Abbas, the Western-backed Palestinian president whose forces hold sway in the West Bank, has been seriously weakened by perceptions among his people that he caved in to U.S. pressure over the affair.
There is no “perception” about Abbas being damaged; it is a self inflicted mortal wound, delivered by his own treacherous hand, against his own people. No blame goes anywhere else. I say again, if there was to be some “wide –ranging concessions” as stated above in this article, then 1. Where were they? And why wouldn’t Israel give them earlier so as to ensure Abbas would “do the deal” and be able to produce a reasonable concession to show what he traded Palestinian victims rights for? And 2. Why would Abbas kill the report BEFORE he was given the prize, I mean bribe? Either way this entire thing makes ZERO sense. We are to believe that Abbas would trade the Goldstone Report right now for an un-named concession later, and this from Israel? And for Israel’s part, we are to believe that during all these months that Obama made his feeble attempts, and Israel gave nothing, while taking more, they now want you to believe they “really were going to make wide-ranging concessions” yet now they cannot? Seriously change the record please.
(Goldstone Report) has largely overshadowed an aggressive U.S. drive to bring Israelis and Palestinians back to the negotiating table.
Here’s the “aggressive drive” by Obama:

Example #1
Obama: I nominate Charles Freeman chair of the National Intelligence Council
Israel: via AIPAC Oh no you don’t we don’t like him; get another one that will do what we want.
Obama: Ok

Example #2
Obama: Stop building settlements, they are illegal
Israel: piss off; we do what we want, so there
Obama: Ok

Example #3
Obama: Please make some concession and work towards peace, we have to give the Palestinians something, they must have a state
Israel: STFU O-Bambi, we don’t give anything to those rag heads, they’ll never get a state because we plan on taking ALL the land, so there!
Obama: Ok

This has pretty much been what’s taken place since the great man of “hope” I mean “hype” took office. Next:
Of the report's many unintended consequences, perhaps none was as noteworthy as the fallout from Washington's decision to pressure the moderate Palestinian president into backing down from a demand to press the case against Israel in the United Nations.
If I were an American I’d feel sick about this. Your President has been placed in a position of becoming an accessory to a crime, no, make that many crimes. Because Obama lacks the, (let’s use one of Obamas favourite words here) “Audacity” to stand up to Israel and the Israeli lobby inside America. Israel says to all American’s “who’s your daddy now?” Give us that 3 billion per year and we’ll control you at the same time. A strong President would stop the money; hit them in the wallet where it hurts. Cut off that money and see how fast you start getting those “wide-ranging concessions” Israel claims it really wants to give……….next:
While the Palestinians have since reversed course and the case is going ahead this week in New York and Geneva, the damage has already been done. Abbas has been vilified at home as a sellout, and his Hamas rivals are taking full advantage.
And yet another idiotic statement about Hamas taking “full advantage” of what Abbas did. Who wouldn’t?? Abbas is an idiot, with at best failing intelligence and at worse nothing more than an Israeli agent. How can that be Hamas’ fault, it was a gift to hamas from Abbas and why should they not point out that the man is deficient and a traitor, he is.
U.S. officials argued that pursuing the case against Israel would hurt efforts to restart Israeli-Palestinian peace talks.
I think that is called “blackmail” However, you won’t see any reports calling it what it actually is. Instead we read twisted sad tales that are meant to make people believe something has now been lost because the report is going forward. No one mentions that Israel has had ample opportunity to show it wants to make peace and move forward, nothing at all before the report, and there would be nothing after the report as well.

When will some brave honest journalist dare to call it what it is, a rogue country attempting to pervert the course of justice, any way it can!

6 comments:

Saladin said...

Very good article again Irish!
You realy speak directly from your heart,and you have a realy interesting style of writing!
I just hate when people create a blog about palestine and then they write artichles like robots without no soul,i want to see when someone writes his own views about something that i fell that he give his "all" into the article,not just babling with the facts!when you write it realy shows that you care about that subject!
my coment of your article will be litlle diferent,i will not coment specificly about the things you wrote,i will just say what the things should have been but they arent so in the way all of that and much more can be translated to your article.
I WILL TELL YOU MY FULL VIEW ON PALESTINE SUBJECT(i realy dont care what others think of that):
1.israel dont have the right to exist!jewish people lived in today palestine long.long time ago,and that should remain in history,because if we start to give people their new states regarding where people lived 2.000 years ago then we will have a 1.000 new states and everybody will have to leave their homes,because before 2.000 years ago nobody lived on the same location like today!the subject that jews have the right to have their state in palestine because they lived here 2.000 years ago its apsurd!!why dont then americans leave north america and return that land to indians who are the real inhabitans of that land and go back to the britain?they didnt live in north america for ex.in 12 century!so if jews have the right to expel palestinians from their land because they lived there 2.000 years ago,the please usa citizens,go back to your native land and leave the indians north america!
2.israel-palestine conflict does not exist!!israel invaded other elses country and palestine have the right to trow them all out from the palestine!i repeat again there is no israel-palestine conflict!there is no israel,israel does not exist,its a fake name for the agresor who ocupied someone elses country!
there are no rockets that are flying into israel space because thERE IS no israel space,its palestine space,tel-aviv is not a capital of israel because tel-aviv is palestinian city!there are no israel agriculture companys because,that land is in palestine and belongs only to palestine!

Saladin said...

3.the term PEACE PROCESS in palestine does not exist!what that term realy means is to slowly,in the pretex of endless talk which are taking place for 60 years now grap piece by piece every land in palestine till 1 day all that land becomes "israel"!
peace process?lol!yeah right.1918.palestinians have 100% of their country,now they have 20%,and still israelis are building more setlements,2040.for ex.they will have 5% of their country untill 1 day they will have nothing!
4.the rest off the world never wanted and never will want to help palestinians!there is no single coutry(i mean goverment not the ordinary people) that wants to help the palestinians(i mean,true help,not some babling idiotic talks!)
PALESTINE STAND ALONE AND 1 DAY WHEN PALESTINE WILL NOT EXIST THE REST OFF THE WORLDS GOVERMENTS WILL NOT GIVE A DAMM!
5.(MOST IMPORTANT):PALESTINE STATE WITH 1967 BORDERS IS NOT A STATE,ITS NOT JUSTICE,ITS A BIG JOKE!!WHEN AGRESOR INVADE YOUR COUNTRY,TAKES FROM YOU 80% OF YOUR STATE AND THEN YOU SATISFY YOURSELF WITH THAT REMAINING 20%,ITS VERY BIG AND SHAMEFUL JOKE!
PALESTINE STATE CAN BE CALLED STATE ONLY WITH ITS FULL 100%!
lets just say for a moment that a down my standards and think like someone who thinks that jews have the right to live in palestine-if i have that kind of brain and aproach then i will setlle for nothing less then 50-50 REGARDING TERITORY LAND!BUT WILL SOMETHING LIKE THAT EVER HAPPEN?!OF COURSE NOT!
SO JEWS AND PALESTINIANS BOOTH HAVE THE RIGHT TO LIVE THERE BUT JEWS WILL CONTROL 80% OF THE LAND!!??WHAT A JOKE!
SO IF IN SOME WAY PEACE IS ESTABLISH AND PALESTINE GET THEIR STATE WITHIN 1967 BORDERS(WHICH SURELY WANT HAPPEN)I FELL SORRY FOR ALL OF YOU WHO WILL SAY THE WORDS........PALESTINE ITS FREE..........ITS NOT FREE MY DEAR PEOPLE!

Saladin said...

In the end lets just objective say what will happen in the future:
we are not in the some kind of a movie where good defeats evil,THIS IS NOT LORD OF THE RINGS,or something like that,there is no GANDALF THERE,SOME GOOD EAGLES THAT WILL DEFEAT THE NAZGULS OR SOME DEATH ARMY WHICH WILL RISE FROM THE GRAVES AND FIGHT FOR THE JUSTICE!
we are living in the sick,twisted,evil world!the world today in controled by evil person,so HOW stupid can someone be if he expect from the world goverments to be fair and fight for justice!!!!!!!!!!
Jews control the USA country-the largest military state in the world that can crush all the world in 30 days if they want to,the USA is a master in the world,and every single country in the world licks the shoes!and if someone dont like iraq,n.korea or iran they crush them to pieces!
so from what goverments do the people seek justice regarding palestine issue??from what goverment!?
DO YOU PEOPLE REALY THINK THAT ISRAEL WHO INVESTED MILIONS OF DOLARS (DONATED BY USA OF COURSE),FOR NEW SETLEMENT BUILDINGS AND RHODES,WILL JUST 1 DAY SAY:OK WE WILL WITHDRAW FROM THAT LAND!!??YEAH RIGHT,THEY WILL SAY IN THE FUTURE:OK LETS LEAVE THIS HOUSES AND ALL WE BUILD TO THE PALESTINIANS,BECAUSE WE RELIZED THAT WE MADE A MISTAKE,AND THAT PALESTINIANS ARE GOOD PEOPLE.-YEAH RIGHT!

ISRAEL HAS THE MILITARY POWER TO WIPE OUT ALL THE MIDDLE EAST IN 30 DAYS!

THE DAYS OF JUSTICE IS OVER,THE DAYS OF PURE EVIL BEGINS!
AND NOT JUST REGARDING PALESTINE,BUT THE PEOPLE FROM THE WHOLE WORLD WILL BEGIN TO FELL THAT IN THE FUTURE!!

Irish4Palestine said...

Salam and Good morning Saladin A Chara (that means friend in Irish)

I promise you that I will reply to all you have written but it will take me a little time as I have a meeting I must attend first and after that I can then formulate a good reply that will be worthy of your comments.

Check back in about 2-3 hours as I should be done by then inshallah

Irish4Palestine said...

Here’s my reply on #1 and #2
I believe in my heart, the ideals you say, and I support Palestine 100%, but at the same time I have to live in the real world, we all do. What I mean by that is this: Example: Just like in Ireland the British could never be defeated militarily AND they could not defeat us militarily either. And we were not under siege by the British. Palestine IS under siege and has very limited resources. At some point reality and ability must meet. You must try and make sure that it takes place during a world period that is BENEFICIAL to YOUR side of the conflict. When the world’s public opinion sides WITH you and you must capitalise on this, as it will not remain as the world continually changes and other news begins to dominate the world’s attention. This is a sad fact.

Now, there is Israel, able to act with impunity for many years, stealing land, ethnically cleansing Palestinians from many areas, conducting excursions into Palestine at will, shooting and kidnapping hundreds of faceless and nameless Palestinians for years, never to be seen again. All of this as taking place, methodically and albeit quietly, hardly a blurb on the news channels and as such the majority of the worlds focus remained elsewhere on their own problems. That’s the reality of the last 30 years or so.

Now we have the Gaza December 2008 genocide. Only this time we also have the internet and too many free lance journalists inside Gaza for Israel to keep all of their horrific crimes secret this time. The scenes of children screaming and then dead, the white phosphorous falling from the sky as Mark Regev tries to tell the world on television every day, that we did not see what we saw with our own eyes, the bombing runs, again and again, the hundreds of dead buried in rubble, all of this struck to the hearts of people around the world, ISRAEL WAS EXPOSED FOR ONCE TO THE WORLD, and there has never been such a time where so much of the world’s population has been focused on Palestine and its people. More and more people have taken it upon themselves to read and learn more of what Israel’s past criminal acts on Palestine were. They see the illegal settlers on TV, they see the olive trees burning they see Palestinians in Jerusalem bring evicted form their own homes, only to be replaced by Jews.
So, if anything is to ever help resolve this situation for the Palestinians, then now is that time. While the majority of the world opinion supports Palestine. As this is the ONLY tool that can even remotely move any of the world’s politicians. E.g. public opinion. They want to appease the masses, and to do so they cannot be so outwardly supportive of Israel any longer. We are watching them now, we are focused.

So I believe the time is now, and I also know that today, in 2009, there will never be any un-doing of the creating of the state of Israel. It just will never happen. It is there, it is a reality and it must be dealt with in the best way for Palestinians.
Facts that hurt but are true: Israel holds siege over Palestine now. Israel has massive stockpiles of state of the art weapons, Palestine does not. Israel continues to have the backing of America; as such American can pressure other countries like France, England, Germany and others. This is the world we live in unfortunately. So from a military perspective and a political strategy perspective, now is the best time for Palestine to get what ever it can with the current support it now has. This will most likely be some sort of a two state solution as this is what America has decided. Even this will be an uphill struggle and may take many years to settle. But I do think this is the time when Israel cannot continue its past ways any longer. Israel has lost the hearts and minds of the world’s people this time and there has never been a better time for Palestine to take advantage of this while it lasts.

More in a few minutes…

Irish4Palestine said...

Saladin said: PALESTINE STAND ALONE AND 1 DAY WHEN PALESTINE WILL NOT EXIST THE REST OFF THE WORLDS GOVERMENTS WILL NOT GIVE A DAMM!

>>>>This is sadly true. Which is why we must use today’s situation as best we can for Palestine. Otherwise Palestinians will end up being gypsies across the world with no homeland. The rest I think was covered in my first reply to #1 and #2
We have to deal with what is in front of us today. Even Hamas knows this. This is why we must strike now while the world sees Israel as the aggressor and colonizer it is. Fight for every little victory we can, the Goldstone report, all of it. Each little thing is a chink in Israel’s flawed armour, which is falling away finally.
My personal thoughts are that Obama will create “some” solution. I say this because of his over inflated “ego” He is the first black president and he placed Middle East so called “peace” at the front of his agenda, he won votes on this. He won the noble peace prize (as insane as that is!) and now will have to live up to that. He sees himself as a great man, and will want his legacy to reflect this in some way. I can’t stand him, but he has a self inflated ego as big as the galaxy and this, this will cause him to want to go down in history not as a failure. Now, having said that, we must all work hard to ensure that Palestine gets the BEST deal it can, when this ultimately begins. Obama cannot be trusted to deal fairly and the Zionist Lobby will be working with him. So we must all stick together help to keep the Palestinians from being screwed over by Obama and Israel when and IF this actually begins to happen. Any Palestinian state must be free and self ruled, with all the rights afforded to other countries of this world, with complete sovereignty. That’s my thoughts on the subject.


I have to get back to work now LOL

we can talk again though inshallah

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